On the peat moor above Helensburgh with my old Rangie.
It looked OK but I found grassed-over drain.


This one wasn't me, I saw it by the main road on the way into Stornoway when they were digging foundations for a house.
 

A couple of good posts about the dangers of winches here. I am a trained fires service winch instructor and I am scared silly when I see some cars fitted with winches knowing that the owners are probably not trained.

If used correctly no winch rope/cable should never snap. Every winch should have a maximum torque and if the cable is rated over that pull it should never break. Failure is usually when the anchor point is not up to scratch or when the cabe is not maintained correctly. Any shackles used should be rated over the maximum torque/pull of the winch too.

Basic safety training should be essential before anyone can use a wich, although that will never happen sadly. No longer FF owner but still interested. Present car Jaguar XE
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Previous car Td6 SE
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Previous LR- Disco 300TDi Auto

My FF is fecking useless on wet grass! Embarrassed itself many times... OK its on 22"s and road tyres but still!

Funny thing though, put it on snow and its ace! Work that out



Craig

Craig it must just come down to the RIGHT kind of snow

I definately agree that if you've never got stuck, then you aren't trying hard enough

No piccies of my best stuck moments, but does a failed hill climb count ?



A real lesson for me that locked diffs can sometimes get you into more trouble than not having them. I was lucky, but the guy who went after me & decided that it just needed a bit more speed ......



Needless to say, I went to play on a different part of the site after that

Without sounding condicending, do you know how to react properly to failed hill climbs??
Locked diffs won't make a difference if you do, they will help  

What I do is engage reverse & roll back down - feet off everything - is that what you were asking ?

What I meant was that without locked diffs, I wouldn't have got as far up the hill and therefore not into trouble in the first place.......

Yep thats the one. Just many people don't realise engine braking works in reverse aswell as in 1st low

Also on newer models hill decent also works in reverse 

As above, low range, hdc, reverse or 1st depending on which wnnof the vehicle is facing downhill

Hdc speed also change between low and high range too, I guess so as obtuse engine braking. This is irrespective of being in a gear or neutral FYI  FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
Mantec Sump Guard, Rigid Load liner, MY10 BT upgrade.

Alistair are those pics at Tixover? 2010 3.6TDV8 Stornoway Grey/ Black interior - gone
2005 4.4V8 (M62) Bonatti Grey/ Parchment interior - gone
1998 4.6HSE Blue/ Cream interior (can't remember exact colours) - gone
1977 White - gone (should have kept)

Also I think its on the my05 onwards, mabee later not sure, but you can adjust the hdc speed using the cruise control up/down function 

Tried on mine but to No effect ;( maybe on the TR system vehicles that works as work on the d4's I had  FFRR MY06 facelift With TDV8 Alloys Zeros/ATR's
Mantec Sump Guard, Rigid Load liner, MY10 BT upgrade.

The one and only time I've ever been 'stuck' is on a greenlaning trip in my 110 five years ago.

Just exited a wet, steep grassy field after a slippery climb and nonchantly drove into a 'puddle', which turned out to be a bit deeper than first thought. A Series 3 109 had just walked it, so I figured I'd be fine...

Wrong line and down one front wheel went, leaving the diagonally opposite rear waggling in the air.

As help was arriving, I then realised I'd not selected diff-lock, so tried that and out I trundled.

Either through some kind of driver skill (me?!) and / or decent tyres, I've never been stuck since. Si. <This is my name.

I eat rat poison.

A man ain't truly been insulted until he stands buck naked in front of a woman and she didn't even notice. Or care.

I didn't get stuck myself but this is what happened to my Discovery shortly after I sold it to a local yoof.
It was immaculate when he got it.

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drakes wrote:

Alistair are those pics at Tixover?

Yep